satt comments on Political topics attract participants inclined to use the norms of mainstream political debate, risking a tipping point to lower quality discussion - Less Wrong

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Comment author: satt 27 March 2015 01:11:34AM *  4 points [-]

I've had the idea before that a group of LWers keen to start an inflammatory political argument could help keep LW cool by having the argument on an unrelated, pre-existing, general politics forum. They could link the argument on the Open Thread so the rest of us know it's happening.

Possible advantages & disadvantages:

  • fewer political flame-outs on LW...
  • ...more political flame-outs on Unnamed Other Forum
  • other forum posters would likely have worse argumentative norms...
  • ...but you could look for a forum with relatively good norms to minimize this (a pre-existing LW-affiliated blog/network, or a traditional rationalist/sceptic forum with a politics subforum?)
  • LWers modelling good argumentative norms to strangers might get the strangers to up their own game...
  • ...or social contagion might happen in the other direction, with LWers regressing towards the mean for online political arguments
  • has the trivial inconvenience of requiring LWers to register on another forum and post there, even as they continue to post other stuff here...
  • ...but maybe a trivial inconvenience is what you want if you think the marginal LW political argument has net negative value
  • could be interpreted as a forum invasion...
  • ...but it's not like LWers are trolls, and only a few LWers would likely bother with this anyway, so they'd probably blend into a bigger on-topic forum without much fuss
  • might entrench misinterpretations of "Politics is the Mindkiller"
  • in the unlikely event this became a firmly established norm, LWers might start demanding threads be taken elsewhere at the least scent of politics
Comment author: 9eB1 27 March 2015 03:47:40AM 2 points [-]

We could easily use the LessWrong subreddit for that purpose, or create a LWPolitics subreddit.

Comment author: casebash 27 March 2015 02:00:19PM 1 point [-]

Interesting idea. There doesn't seem to be much traffic there, I wonder if the mods would be open to it?