DimitriK comments on Guardians of the Gene Pool - Less Wrong

25 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 16 December 2007 08:08PM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 17 December 2007 09:07:38PM -2 points [-]

Really, Chris. So if I believe in the value of the environment, but believe that it's much less valuable than the use to be gained by paving it over with strip mines, then I'm an "environmentalist"?

In any case it's a moot point. Mark Plus coined the term "Singularitarian", but didn't do much with it; when I decided to build a Singularitarian movement, I asked Mark Plus for ownership of the word and was granted it; and I define the term to involve activism. If you mean something else by the word, feel free to call yourself a "Singularian" or something.

Comment author: DimitriK 12 November 2014 10:12:00PM 1 point [-]

I think Chris was talking about value in a relative sense (though ironicly was sloppy and left his statement too vague).

What's more surprising here is that you guys are arguing over a definition of environmentalim. Taboo it and you'd probably agree.

Most surprising of all is seeing you claim you own a word, Eliezer. I may have just started reading these sequences but I'm pretty sure there was a post or two on how you can't just define a word how you want.

Ironically enough you are guarding singularitarianism with your comment. And you're doing it by redefining the word to suit youside. And im pretty sure its a redefinement. The normative use for singularitarianist doesn't involve activism. Nor does environmentalist. You might value one singularitarianist or environmentalist more than another if they are an activist for thecause, but that's another matter.