So8res comments on Ephemeral correspondence - Less Wrong
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On reflection, I think the claim I most want to make is something along the lines of "if you identify rationality!sane with 'hook the world-model-generator up to reality', then people will eventually realize rationality is insufficient for them and invent postrationality." If you identify rationality!sane with winning, then it seems much less likely that people will eventually realize rationality is insufficient for them.
I don't want to defend the claim that humans are optimal. I want to register discomfort that I think the claims you put forward trivialize the other view and overstate your position.
Yes, but. We're really discussing maps, rather than territory, because we're talking about things like "skies" and "compliments," which while they could be learned from the territory are not atomic elements of the territory. I'd say they exist at higher 'levels of abstraction,' but I'm not sure that clarifies anything.
Thanks! I agree that this isn't the best set-up for getting people interested in instrumental rationality, but remember that these essays were generated as a set of things to say before reading Rationality: AI to Zombies -- they're my take on the unstated background assumptions that motivate R:A-Z a little better before people pick it up. For that reason, the essays have a strong "why epistemics?" bent :-)