Liron comments on What are "the really good ideas" that Peter Thiel says are too dangerous to mention? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Liron 12 April 2015 10:09:51PM *  0 points [-]

I have no idea what Thiel is thinking of, but I'll volunteer to get a brainstorm started:

Male to female love is 70% physical attraction. Yes, love.

Edit: I guess this related to race and gender, but I don't want to hold back one of my edgiest beliefs.

Comment author: dxu 12 April 2015 10:25:15PM *  2 points [-]

Male to female

Are you specifying that direction of love, or are you simply referring to heterosexual love in general? If the former, why not the other way around (female-to-male)? If the latter, why not include other orientations?

Comment author: Liron 12 April 2015 11:25:03PM *  3 points [-]

The former; I was being precise. I don't think the reverse direction is true. My beliefs in both directions come from a combination of my understanding of evolutionary psychology plus anecdotal observations of myself and others. I can elaborate but I'll also ask why others don't believe this.

Also I should add this obviously isn't true for all males. I'm just trying to model the average case.

Comment author: DanielLC 13 April 2015 05:59:44AM 0 points [-]

Do you have a guess as to how much love in the reverse direction is physical attraction?

Comment author: Liron 13 April 2015 06:49:44AM 0 points [-]

15%

Comment author: CurtisSerVaas 12 April 2015 11:53:16PM 0 points [-]

Also I should add this obviously isn't true for any males.

I think you meant to type many.

Comment author: Liron 13 April 2015 01:36:23AM 0 points [-]

Thx, edited.

Comment author: pwno 12 April 2015 11:30:35PM -1 points [-]

I agree

Comment author: pragmatist 13 April 2015 09:02:29AM *  1 point [-]

What exactly is that 70% supposed to quantify? Is the claim that, if I wake up tomorrow and no longer find my girlfriend physically attractive, I'll only be 30% as in love with her as I am now? Or is the claim that in 70% of heterosexual romantic relationships, if the male no longer finds the female attractive, he will no longer be in love with her?

Also, why do you consider this a "really good idea"?

Comment author: Liron 13 April 2015 02:26:23PM 2 points [-]

The former, except for the average male instead of you personally.

The type of this idea is "belief about the world", and it's good because it pays high rent in anticipated experience, like answering "yes" to your first question.

Comment author: falenas108 13 April 2015 12:08:58AM 1 point [-]

Is this idea for current Western society, or for love overall?

Comment author: Liron 13 April 2015 01:36:59AM 1 point [-]

Love overall.

Comment author: [deleted] 13 April 2015 03:12:54PM 0 points [-]

Romantic love? (Not, for example, love such as you'd have for a friend?)

Does your belief lead you to think that the average old married men don't love their wives?

Does it lead you to pitying ugly women who want to be loved more than ugly men who want to be loved?

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