FrameBenignly comments on Open Thread, Apr. 13 - Apr. 19, 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: advancedatheist 15 April 2015 03:57:25AM *  1 point [-]

Well, whatever you do, please don't go on an omega male rampage like Elliot Rodger last year.

I just find our boy-rearing practices odd. We can see starting in middle school, or its equivalent in your country, which boys readily attract girls. They get girlfriends early, they get the best looking girls, they get more girls in general, and they start having sexual experiences and relationships in their teens.

The rest of us as young men, by contrast, receive the seemingly well meaning advice from our elders to "develop ourselves and wait," so that perhaps, possibly, some day, conceivably, young women will give us a turn with them. I know this happens because I heard this crap from my mother at that age.

Funny how our elders don't tell the naturally bangable boys that they have to "develop themselves and wait." At best the elders might advise these youngsters to slow down and bang more carefully to prevent unwanted pregnancies. But otherwise these guys can do pretty much whatever they want with girls because the girls let them with their parents' complicity.

It looks almost as if a tacit understanding exists that adults need to set the sexually unfavored boys aside somehow so that they don't get in the way of the bangable boys, who have the pleasant task of breaking in, sexually speaking, the girls in their generation. The rest of the young men have to wait until these girls, now young women, have to turn to them, reluctantly and without enthusiasm, for their "mature" relationships and sexually sparing marriages.

Comment author: FrameBenignly 15 April 2015 05:59:52AM *  2 points [-]

The most "bangable boys" as you put it is a constantly shifting target. The most successful boys in high school are the ones who are naturally good-looking and extroverted. As you grow older, income and conscientiousness play bigger factors. A guy with no money is perceived poorly by dates and will frequently be left with only one night stands. An undisciplined guy will gradually pack on weight and this will hurt his chances. Introverts, with practice, will get better at forcing themselves to make small talk and the extrovert advantage will diminish. Hard-working guys will have a higher income and stay in better shape, and can force themselves to learn how to approach girls in the right way. There are some constants like height, but a lot of your life choices can dramatically increase your chances. Genetics are a factor, but any guy with well above average intelligence born into a first world country (IE 90% of the LW community) already has been given the two biggest advantages possible.

Comment author: James_Miller 15 April 2015 09:06:51PM 5 points [-]

I wonder about this. It wouldn't surprise me if popularity at 15 strongly correlated with popularity throughout life.

Comment author: FrameBenignly 16 April 2015 12:19:41AM 1 point [-]

Losing your virginity at a young age seems to predict increased sexual experience, but not in a good way. More akin to what you're referring to:

Facial attractiveness correlated with the number of short-term, but not long-term, sexual partners, for males ... Body attractiveness also correlated significantly with the number of short-term, but not long-term, sexual partners, for males, and attractive males became sexually active earlier than their peers.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1090513804000765

I'm not sure how they're distinguishing between short-term and long-term because I can't find an ungated copy. It also seems to be the case that our society discourages sex at an early age. I certainly don't envy the kids who were most sexually active in high school.