Lumifer comments on How to sign up for Alcor cryo - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Lumifer 03 May 2015 02:17:57AM -1 points [-]

No, it used to do better than that. Do you offer guarantees for the future (note that, for example, bonds will NOT be able to repeat the performance of the last 10-15 years)? There is also considerable volatility -- presumably you would like some assurance that when you'll need the money S&P isn't going to be in one of its troughs? And, as most everyone, you forgot about taxes.

Comment author: [deleted] 03 May 2015 05:23:23AM *  1 point [-]

It is possible we are on the verge of a Great Depression like event. But possible does not imply probable.

Regarding taxes, you simply buy a term insurance lasting until you are at least 59 1/2, and use a retirement account to save for your future cryogenic preservation on a tax-free basis (and I mean truly tax-free -- you save on a tax-deferred basis, and then when you are proclaimed legally dead the transfer to Alcor is made from your estate without taxes so long as your net worth is less than $5m).

But feel free to invest in a universal life policy instead, as most Alcor members do. It's basically the same thing under the hood, just with a bunch of middlemen taking cuts along the way. Of course the financial collapse that is so drastic that a broad index fund would perform less than 6% annualized is likely to wipe out your life insurance company too. But maybe you'll feel better thinking that you have that risk covered.

Comment author: Lumifer 03 May 2015 06:38:24AM 0 points [-]

It is possible we are on the verge of a Great Depression like event

That too, though I mostly meant the slowdown in economic growth.

and then when you are proclaimed legally dead the transfer to Alcor is made from your estate

A couple of problems here. First, you are obligated to start withdrawing money from your retirement account at certain age. Second, is Alcor happy to start the cryo without waiting for probate to settle?

the financial collapse that is so drastic that a broad index fund would perform less than 6% annualized is likely to wipe out your life insurance company too

No need for collapse. Take a look at e.g. Japan. All its life insurance companies are intact, but the stock market... did not perform well during the past 30 years.