Dahlen comments on Open Thread, Apr. 27 - May 3, 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Caue 27 April 2015 09:24:20PM *  2 points [-]

It's not that rare.

Consider accusations of hate against: Israel/Jews; straight cis white men; Christians; America; Freedom; rich people...

Comment author: Dahlen 28 April 2015 11:12:44AM 2 points [-]

Have you actually seen people claiming to hate freedom?

It makes sense if you're talking about some specific understanding of it, e.g. free-market policies or gun rights, but for someone to declare themselves anti-freedom as a concept... Nope, it doesn't map to anything I've ever witnessed.

Comment author: Caue 28 April 2015 11:03:24PM *  2 points [-]

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No, I mean people sometimes accuse leftists of holding positions motivated by hate. It's more common for this accusation to be made against right-wing positions (which is what the grandparent was talking about), but I don't think the reverse is all that rare.

Comment author: Dahlen 28 April 2015 11:13:01PM 0 points [-]

Oh. Okay; misinterpreted. I can reasonably imagine someone actually hating all those things except for freedom, because, except for freedom, all of them can be someone's outgroup. But I was thinking, maybe Caue actually encountered the odd one out, and I was wondering how they were like. (Support for slavery, gulags, and totalitarianism? The world is large and people are diverse.)

Comment author: Lumifer 28 April 2015 11:50:52PM 2 points [-]

I can reasonably imagine someone actually hating all those things except for freedom

Hating freedom is pretty easy. Imagine yourself a religious fundamentalist where you know what is right. God pointed out the straight path to you and you should walk it -- any "freedom" is just machinations of Satan/Shaitan/demons/etc. to try to get you off the straight path mandated by God.