Lumifer comments on Rationality Quotes Thread May 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 27 May 2015 02:33:41PM *  3 points [-]

This... really shows how wide is the Atlantic. I know many Europeans who identify with being Christians, but in all of the cases it is just a way to show their national loyalty, their national identity, their conservatism or their opposition to modern culture, their preference for a higher value system that does not worship money and business and consumption but has a more human-faced, soul-oriented, "deeper" approach. This is how they are Christians. Nobody, literally nobody I know has literal faith, the kind of faith people would pray with. The closest to that is having a faith in Christian values being useful for human growth because they remind people that money and consumption is not all.

So it is always surprising to me that America has pockets where faith is still alive pretty much in the old, pre-1800 sense, as if Voltaire, Hegel, Feuerbach or Marx never happened. Where it is not a culture or identity or values, but literally faith.

Or maybe these pockets exist here too, but the newspapers are not writing about them and I have no idea where they are.

Comment author: Lumifer 27 May 2015 05:53:24PM 0 points [-]

Or maybe these pockets exist here too

They certainly do. Some of them send out suicide bombers which is when the mainstream media starts to notice them... :-/

Comment author: [deleted] 28 May 2015 06:56:27AM *  1 point [-]

Yeah I mean those are imports, I was meaning traditional ones. (Breivik does not count as one, as he is more of a political type crazy.)