Stupid Questions May 2015

Gondolinian

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Please be respectful of other people's admitting ignorance and don't mock them for it, as they're doing a noble thing.

To any future monthly posters of SQ threads, please remember to add the "stupid_questions" tag.

A public transportation dilemma: to get to the nearest subway station, which is on the same boulevard as my apartment building a good few blocks away, I have to take a bus to there. A bus trip to the subway station is short, about 2 or 3 minutes, but buses come at irregular times. I might find one already there, with its doors open, when I arrive to the bus stop, or I might wait 15-20 minutes for one to come. If I were to walk to my destination, the trip would take about 10 to 15 minutes.

When I'm in a hurry, I usually head for the bus stop and hope a bus comes right away -- that would minimize the duration of my trip. The worst decision I could possibly make is wait 15 minutes for a bus to come, get annoyed, decide it's probably not my lucky day, and suck it up and walk to the subway station -- that's a full 25 minutes, up from the 2-3 minutes of a "lucky" trip. Very often I get to see several buses passing me by as I decide to walk. But if I were to take the opposite decision and decide to not even wait for a bus, instead just heading straight to the station, I'm still at a disadvantage of about 8 minutes, if the bus comes shortly after I pass by the bus stop.

After how much time is it rational to leave the bus stop and decide to walk, if the bus doesn't come? The probability of the bus to come after a given waiting time (the frequency with which it comes) is unknown, although it might get close to 1 after 30 minutes.

Just for the sake of completion, there are some bus services that offer real-time GPS tracking, so you'd know where the bus is and roughly how long until it arrives. Presumably no such service is available.

We go on to the age-old question: do you try to get the best average performance or the best worst-case performance? If it's the best average performance, go to the bus stop and wait. If you prefer to get the best worst-case performance, just walk every time.

3Jiro11y

If you want to minimize the mean travel time, the answer is either to always take the bus or always walk (unless you see the bus at the stop immediately, in which case you should take it--this violates the assumption that the bus's arrival time is unknown.) With the numbers you've given, walking is better. If you want to minimize the chance that you'll have regret, where regret is defined as "if I had chosen the other method, I would have gotten there first", the solution is the same as in the average case. (Both of these cases are complicated by the fact that since you see the bus at the stop some percentage of the time, the bus arrival times are not actually evenly distributed from 0 to 30 minutes, but that just makes choosing the bus worse and it's already worse.) To the question "should I wait X length of time for the bus and start walking if the bus hasn't arrived in that time", generally, you should never do that; if walking after X minutes is better than continuing to wait after X minutes, then walking after X' minutes (where X' < X) is better than continuing to wait after X' minutes (since the bus will arrive sooner if there has been no bus for X minutes, than if there has been no bus for X' minutes), so you should walk immediately. It is of course possible to come up with more detailed requirements that could demand you wait X length of time and then start walking. For instance, "I never want to take more than 20 minutes, but as long as it is less than 20 minutes, I want it to be as short as possible", it takes 15 minutes to walk, and the bus takes 0-20 minutes to arrive--you should wait for the bus for 5 minutes, and then start walking.