Good_Burning_Plastic comments on Stupid Questions May 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: VoiceOfRa 03 July 2015 05:58:13PM 2 points [-]

Because the map is not the territory?

That's an argument for bringing our map closer to the territory, i.e., applying the word "gender" in humans to the same concept we use for animals. Not for completely messing up our map.

Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 04 July 2015 09:00:32AM *  2 points [-]

applying the word "gender" in humans to the same concept we use for animals

I'm not aware of the word "gender" being commonly applied to non-human animals for any concept, other than grammatical gender. You might be thinking of the concept usually referred to as "sex".

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 04 July 2015 06:20:18PM *  2 points [-]

If you want to follow that distinction, then I agree that "gender" doesn't point to anything real aside from what is commonly pointed to by the word "sex". Heck when "gender" first became used in its non-grammatical meaning, it was a euphemism for "sex" since the latter had acquired a meaning (as [Edit: an act]) that made it not necessarily SFW.

Comment author: gjm 04 July 2015 10:54:03PM 1 point [-]

A pedantic correction: "gender" appears to have had that non-grammatical meaning since the 15th century (and has also had an NSFW meaning as a verb since even earlier) but (if the OED is to be trusted, which usually it is) it's true that "gender" became widely used to mean males/females collectively in the 20th century because "sex" was too distracting. (It wasn't "sex" as a verb, though, but "sex" as a noun meaning "copulation".)