TheAncientGeek comments on Is Determinism A Special Case Of Randomness? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: estimator 04 May 2015 10:20:46AM 2 points [-]

Any "fundamentally" random process can be seen as a deterministic process. Since it will have a single outcome, we can set it as the only outcome possible, and yield a fully deterministic process which is indistinguishable from the original, random, process. In other words, we can say that a fundamentally random process is a deterministic process which relies on hidden variables which are unreachable for us.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 04 May 2015 05:19:43PM -1 points [-]

Which is why discussions of fundamental indetermimism in QM always involve hidden variables. Proponents of fundamental indetermimism are invoking Occams razor.

OTOH, you can never have certain evidence that a given law is deterministic, only that it holds in t99%, .or 99.9%of cases.