OrphanWilde comments on Debunking Fallacies in the Theory of AI Motivation - Less Wrong

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Comment author: OrphanWilde 19 May 2015 01:12:30PM 1 point [-]

On the grounds of the opposite meanings of dumbness and intelligence.

Dumbness isn't merely the opposite of intelligence.

Take it up with the author,

I don't need to.

Economic systems affect us because wrong are part of them. How is an some neither-intelligent-nor-stupid-system in a box supposed to effect us?

Not really relevant to the discussion at hand.

And if AIs are neither-intelligent-nor-stupid, why are they called AIs?

Every AI we've created so far has resulted in the definition of "AI" being changed to not include what we just created. So I guess the answer is a combination of optimism and the word "AI" having poor descriptive power.

And if AIs are alien, why are they able to do comprehensible and useful thing like winning jeopardy and guiding us to our destinations.

What makes you think an alien intelligence should be useless?

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 21 May 2015 12:16:38PM 0 points [-]

What makes you think that a thing designed by humans to be useful to humans, which is useful to humans would be alien?

Comment author: OrphanWilde 21 May 2015 02:37:20PM -1 points [-]

Because "human" is a tiny piece of a potential mindspace whose dimensions we mostly haven't even identified yet.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 22 May 2015 02:28:06PM *  1 point [-]

That's about a quarter of an argument. You need to show that AI research is some kind of random shot into mind space, and not anthropomorphically biased for the reasons given.

Comment author: OrphanWilde 22 May 2015 02:36:57PM -1 points [-]

The relevant part of the argument is this: "whose dimensions we mostly haven't even identified yet."

If we created an AI mind which was 100% human, as far as we've yet defined the human mind, we have absolutely no idea how human that AI mind would actually behave. The unknown unknowns dominate.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 23 May 2015 02:41:14PM 0 points [-]

Alien isnt the most transparent term to use fir human unknowns.