Jiro comments on Thoughts on minimizing designer baby drama - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Jiro 13 May 2015 03:23:58PM 1 point [-]

not in a field that a lot of people are already skeptical about.

That sounds to me like "that won't happen because of the objections of people like you. Because it won't happen, there's no need to object to it".

Comment author: Nornagest 13 May 2015 05:35:15PM *  0 points [-]

I'm saying what I think would happen, not what should happen.

You can object to what you want, but a statement that starts "Governments will likely regulate it..." is a prediction, not an objection.

Comment author: Jiro 13 May 2015 05:50:29PM 1 point [-]

It's a prediction based on the existence of objections. If you use that prediction to then argue against the objections, it becomes self-defeating, since successfully using the prediction that way destroys the basis for being able to make the prediction.

Comment author: Nornagest 13 May 2015 05:57:10PM *  0 points [-]

I am not arguing against objections to government-mandated genetic modification. I am arguing that, as a matter of fact, Western governments in the near future are unlikely to fully exploit that kind of mandate, partly because those objections are common.

Analogously, I don't believe Western governments are likely, at the moment, to burn opposition literature en masse. It does not therefore follow that arguments for free speech aren't worth taking seriously -- just that the existence of a valid underlying principle doesn't imply imminent dystopian peril.