VoiceOfRa comments on How my social skills went from horrible to mediocre - Less Wrong

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Comment author: VoiceOfRa 25 May 2015 05:04:00AM -2 points [-]

Also nerds would prefer to hang out with normal people. This means that any normal person willing to hang out with nerds instantly gains high status within a nerd community. Also, nerds are perfectly willing to exile the more social inept nerds from their communities for the chance to have a normal person join. Tragically this tends to create a slippery slope that ends with nerds being exiled from their own communities.

Comment author: Mirzhan_Irkegulov 25 May 2015 06:05:02PM 6 points [-]

All of your assumptions are highly questionable. Let's define nerds and normals as somebody with non-mainstream semi-weird interests (anime, Warhammer figurine painting, tabletop games, sci-fi and fantasy, you name it) and somebody without them. Anime nerds do not want to hang out with normals, who are not into anime, unless these normals have other intersecting interests. Anime nerds would not be enthusiastic about a not fan of anime joining their community, and a not fan of anime won't get any high status.

The only exception I can think of is when nerds try to gain something from normals. For example, a male heterosexual nerd would tolerate a non-nerd woman with a tiny hope to get sex.

Nerds do not hang out with normals not necessarily because normal communities ostracize them, but because for nerds normal communities are boring.

Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 26 May 2015 08:02:41AM *  2 points [-]

It would be useful for this conversation to taboo the word "nerd" and stick to "nerd1" for "people with poor social skills" and "nerd2" for "people with a scientific, mathematics, or computing background who are into fantasy fiction, role-playing games and the like". (I was temped to say "dork" and "geek" instead.) And perhaps "normal1" for "people with decent social skills" and "normal2" for "people who are into mainstream hobbies such as football and television" (and "normal3" for "people with IQ within about one sigma of the average", etc.).

Comment author: [deleted] 26 May 2015 08:39:51AM 1 point [-]

Look at where the interests come from! Usually they come from being ostracized and low-ranking as a kid. The Game of Life - competing for social status points, mating and so on - is generally the most exciting one plain simply because it is REAL. Those who lose it, being ostracized, dominated, bullied etc. take refugee in fantasy or intellectual interests. It is both an escapism and a way to rebuild the shattered ego, by claiming to be better than those by having more smarter or refined interests.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 29 May 2015 04:47:22AM 3 points [-]

What? I prefer spending time with people who pretty much care about what I care about, and that's mostly nerds.

Why do you think nerds would rather hang out with normal people?