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Comment author: TheAncientGeek 22 May 2015 10:50:39AM 2 points [-]

actually would love to see you writing articles on all your theses here, on LW. LW-critical articles were already promoted a few times, including Yvain's article, so it's not like LW is criticism-intolerant.

Things have changed, believe me.

Comment author: Mirzhan_Irkegulov 22 May 2015 01:10:35PM 4 points [-]

Can you point to some examples? Yvain's article was recently on the Main page under Featured articles, for example.

Comment author: Nornagest 22 May 2015 06:19:33PM 1 point [-]

I don't know exactly what process generates the featured articles, but I don't think it has much to do with the community's current preoccupations.

Comment author: Mirzhan_Irkegulov 22 May 2015 06:30:24PM *  4 points [-]

I don't know exact process either, but I always thought somebody deliberately chooses them each week, because often they are around the same topic. So somebody thought it's a good idea to encourage everybody to read an LW-critical article.

My point is, I don't believe LW community suddenly became intolerant to criticism. Or incapable of dialog on whether FAI is a good thing. Or fanatically believing in FAI and Yudkowsky's ideas. Oh, and I'm happy to be proven otherwise!

Seriously, look at top 30 day contributors:

  • Lumifer (629)
  • JonahSinick (626)
  • Vaniver (355)
  • ChristianKl (329)
  • DeVliegendeHollander (251)
  • Richard_Loosemore (242)
  • NancyLebovitz (232)
  • Viliam (209)
  • gjm (184)
  • So8res (180)
  • VoiceOfRa (178)
  • IlyaShpitser (166)
  • Error (162)
  • Mark_Friedenbach (146)
  • JohnMaxwellIV (135)

Only So8res is associated with MIRI, AFAIK. My impression from comments of the people above is that they are pretty much capable of dialog and are not fanatical about FAI at all.

Meaning that in Mark's map LW community is something different than in territory. He think he leaves a crazy cult producing a memetic hazard. I think he leaves a community of pretty much independent-thinking people, who could easily counter MIRI's memes.

That is, even if Mark is completely correct about MIRI, his leaving is irrelevant, it's not a net improvement, but some strange unrelated act with negative utility.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 23 May 2015 11:34:19AM 1 point [-]

My point is, I don't believe LW community suddenly became intolerant to criticism.

My point was that it has become a lot more tolerant.

Comment author: [deleted] 23 May 2015 02:10:43PM 1 point [-]

Maybe, but the core beliefs and cultural biases haven't changed, in the years that I've been here.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 23 May 2015 02:35:08PM 4 points [-]

But you didn't get karmassinated or called an idiot.

Comment author: [deleted] 23 May 2015 02:55:12PM 3 points [-]

This is true. I did not expect the overwhelmingly positive response I got...

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 26 May 2015 07:22:29PM 0 points [-]