ozziegooen comments on FAI Research Constraints and AGI Side Effects - Less Wrong

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Comment author: 27chaos 03 June 2015 07:57:18PM 7 points [-]

This seems like a mathematical write up of a very simple idea. I dislike papers such as this. The theory itself could have been described in one sentence, and nothing other than the theory itself is presented here. No evidence of the theory's empirical value, no discussion of what the actual leakage ratio is or what barriers to Friendliness remain. A lot of math used as mere ornamentation.

Comment author: ozziegooen 03 June 2015 08:33:11PM 2 points [-]

The theory will be a lot more useful once actual leakage ratios are estimated. This paper was mathematically specific, because the purpose of it was to establish a few equations to use when estimating the Friendliness ratio and constraints to AI projects. It was written more to build a mathematical foundation for that than it was a simple intro of the ideas to most readers.

Obviously this was meant as more of a research article than a blog post, but we felt like LessWrong was a good place to publish it given the subject.

Comment author: Lumifer 03 June 2015 08:55:38PM 3 points [-]

It was written more to build a mathematical foundation

That's a pretty simple mathematical foundation for a toy problem.

How about introducing uncertainty into your framework? You will not be dealing with hard numbers, you will be dealing with probability distributions and that makes things considerably more complex.

Comment author: Gram_Stone 03 June 2015 09:08:50PM 2 points [-]

Just pointing out that they have considered this:

This paper was focused on establishing the mentioned models instead of estimating input values. If the models are considered useful, there should be more research to estimate these numbers. The models could also be improved to incorporate uncertainty, the growing returns of research, and other important limitations that we haven't considered. Finally, the friendliness ratio concept naturally generalizes to other technology induced existential risks.