Joshua comments on Asch's Conformity Experiment - Less Wrong

20 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 26 December 2007 07:03AM

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Comment author: Caledonian2 26 December 2007 02:37:51PM 3 points [-]

Aumann's Agreement Theorem was proved more than twenty years after Asch's experiments, but it only formalizes and strengthens an intuitively obvious point - other people's beliefs are often legitimate evidence.

No, other people's beliefs are often treated as evidence, and very powerful evidence at that.

Belief is not suitable as any kind of evidence when more-direct evidence is available, yet people tend to reject direct evidence in order to conform with the beliefs of others.

The human goal usually isn't to produce justified predictions of likelihood, but to ingratiate ourselves with others in our social group.

What are you attempting to do, Eliezer?

Comment author: Joshua 12 February 2011 08:03:06PM 0 points [-]

Isn't this exactly what was said in Hug The Query? I'm not sure I understand why you were down voted.

Comment author: Blueberry 12 February 2011 10:41:18PM 0 points [-]

Caledonian was a well-known LW troll who would frequently make vague, unreadable, critical, somewhat hostile remarks.

Comment author: pnrjulius 09 April 2012 05:33:52AM 0 points [-]

So it's guilt by association.

Comment author: MaxNanasy 26 June 2015 02:01:05AM 0 points [-]

I'd call it ad hominem

Comment author: Kenny 21 January 2013 10:16:24PM 0 points [-]

"Belief is not suitable as any kind of evidence when more-direct evidence is available ..." is more like 'You Can Only Ever Hug The Query By Yourself'.