eli_sennesh comments on The most important meta-skill - Less Wrong

9 Post author: Nanashi 27 May 2015 03:51PM

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Comment author: [deleted] 29 May 2015 06:26:25PM 0 points [-]

Can I give a counterexample? I think that way of learning things might help if you only need to apply the higher-level skills as you learned them, but if you need to develop or research those fields yourself, I've found you really do need the background.

As in, I have been bitten on the ass by my own choice not to double-major in mathematics in undergrad, thus resulting in my having to start climbing the towers of continuous probability and statistics/ML, abstract algebra, logic, real analysis, category theory, and topology in and after my MSc.

Comment author: Nanashi 29 May 2015 08:08:40PM 1 point [-]

There's a big difference between the fundamentals, and the low-level practical applications. I think the latter is what estimator is referring to. You can't really make a breakthrough or do real research without a firm grasp of the fundamentals. But you definitely can make a breakthrough in, say, physics, without knowing the exact tensile strength of wood vs. steel. And yet, that type of "Applied Physics" was a pre-requisite at my school for the more advanced fields of physics that I was actually interested in.

Comment author: [deleted] 30 May 2015 12:40:50AM 0 points [-]

And yet, that type of "Applied Physics" was a pre-requisite at my school for the more advanced fields of physics that I was actually interested in.

Oh. Really? Dang.

Comment author: estimator 29 May 2015 06:45:08PM 0 points [-]

You're right; you have to learn solid background for research. But still, it often makes sense to learn in the reversed order.