Epictetus comments on Stupid Questions June 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Elo 01 June 2015 01:11:14PM *  -1 points [-]

You don't need a whole group to choose to switch to agriculture; just one innovator to show that it works better and the others to not burn that person at the stake for doing it. I say agriculture; but it could be as simple as. I try to encourage this plant to grow more by spreading its seeds, Oh look we have lots of food-plant-X now. Or:

  1. I feed the birds my spare fish
  2. The birds hang around
  3. I occasionally eat the birds too.
  4. I domesticate the birds.
  5. Stable food source = agriculture.

My point (which I am really not showing well) is that the early stages of agriculture are pretty easy to slip into if you have spare thinking space. And after you have them; what you do with your spare time is up to you...

Comment author: Epictetus 02 June 2015 01:49:47AM 0 points [-]

I see two failure modes for agriculture:

  1. Unsuitable land. A tundra or desert would be an extreme example. Something like a steppe could lack arable land and almost require a nomadic lifestyle.

  2. Land of plenty. If food is easy to come by and hunger almost non-existent, agriculture might not be worth the effort in the short-term.

Comment author: Elo 02 June 2015 02:03:45AM 0 points [-]

in mode 1: those who can conserve food resources and potentially grow food where it would be naturally scarce will survive.

in mode 2: the population should expand to meet the available food and force scarcity eventually.