ChristianKl comments on Beyond Statistics 101 - Less Wrong

19 Post author: JonahSinick 26 June 2015 10:24AM

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Comment author: [deleted] 28 June 2015 07:32:50PM 0 points [-]

Quite frankly, I find the norms in academia very creepy: I've seen a lot of people develop serious mental health problems in connection with their experiences in academia. It's hard to see it from the inside: I was disturbed by what I saw, but I didn't realize that math academia is actually functioning as a cult, based on retrospective impressions, and in fact by implicit consensus of the best mathematicians of the world (I can give references if you'd like) .

I've only been in CS academia, and wouldn't call that a cult. I would call it, like most of the rest of academia, a deeply dysfunctional industry in which to work, but that's the fault of the academic career and funding structure. CS is even relatively healthy by comparison to much of the rest.

How much of our impression of mathematics as a creepy, mental-health-harming cult comes from pure stereotyping?

Comment author: ChristianKl 28 June 2015 07:40:31PM *  2 points [-]

How much of our impression of mathematics as a creepy, mental-health-harming cult comes from pure stereotyping?

Jonah happens to be a math phd. How can you engage in pure stereotyping of mathematicians while you get your PHD?

Comment author: [deleted] 28 June 2015 11:26:35PM 0 points [-]

I was more positing that it's a self-reinforcing, self-creating effect: people treat Mathematics in a cultish way because they think they're supposed to.

Comment author: ChristianKl 28 June 2015 11:40:32PM 1 point [-]

Who do you mean when you say "people"?

Comment author: RichardKennaway 29 June 2015 12:26:52PM 0 points [-]

I was more positing that it's a self-reinforcing, self-creating effect

I don't believe there's any such thing, on the general grounds of "no fake without a reality to be a fake of."