DeVliegendeHollander comments on Beyond Statistics 101 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: VoiceOfRa 01 July 2015 03:06:47AM -1 points [-]

Everything that in principle, in theory, could be observed, is real. Most of those you didn't. This does not make them any less real.

I'd like to congratulate you on developing your own "makes you sound insane to the man in the street" theory of metaphysics.

Comment author: [deleted] 01 July 2015 07:37:44AM 0 points [-]

I just need to translate that for him to street lingo.

"There is shit we know, shit we could know, and shit could not know no matter how good tech we had, we could not even know the effects it has on other stuff. So why should we say this later stuff exists? Or why should we say this does not exist? We cannot prove either."

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 02 July 2015 05:04:57AM 2 points [-]

My serious point is that one cannot avoid metaphysics, and that way too many people start out from "all this metaphysics stuff is BS, I'll just use common sense" and end up with there own (bad) counter-intuitive metaphysical theory that they insist is "not metaphysics".

Comment author: Creutzer 02 July 2015 05:11:09AM 0 points [-]

You could charitably understand everything that such people (who assert that metaphysics is BS) say with a silent "up to empirical equivalence". Doesn't the problem disappear then?

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 02 July 2015 05:14:08AM 2 points [-]

No because you need a theory of metaphysics to explain what "empirical equivalence" means.

Comment author: Creutzer 02 July 2015 08:40:26AM *  0 points [-]

To be honest, I don't see that at all.

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 03 July 2015 01:29:42AM 1 point [-]

So how would you define "empirical equivalence"?