Kaj_Sotala comments on Effectively Less Altruistically Wrong Codex - Less Wrong

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Comment author: jacob_cannell 16 June 2015 07:34:00PM 7 points [-]

Basically, you are concerned that LW is not what it was once, and you'd like to see it revived or at least supplanted with an equivalent.

Although I've been on LW for while, I've never been that active. However I still noticed the general decline in volume of discussion in the last year. I spend more time on reddit in r/machinelearning, and the various singularity/AGI/AI related subreddits. Basically I'm interested in AI/future studies but not so much x-rationality, for reasons similar to those outlined by Yvain years ago.

From my perspective the exodus isn't so bad, because it seems that the community which remains still contains a core of intelligent readers educated/interested in issues I care about.

From the start the main appeal of LW - from my perspective - was the somewhat higher quality of discussion than what you would find in big public reddits (like /Futurology for example), due in part to the various mechanisms the founders worked out.

To really revive LW, it may need to change significantly. Interests shift over time, online communities form and then disband. I don't claim to know what changes would increase membership/activity volume, but - not being so interested in xrationality - I only follow a particular subset of this site's discussions conversations, and a subset that wouldn't necessarily benefit from increasing general volume.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 16 June 2015 10:55:30PM 2 points [-]

and the various singularity/AGI/AI related subreddits.

What are the best ones?

Comment author: jacob_cannell 16 June 2015 11:14:13PM 4 points [-]

That phrase may have overestimated the number of such subreddits - I mainly read r/Singularity (moderated by MIRI people, similar to LW, low volume), and r/artificial. There is an r/agi but it is very low volume. r/futurology is very high volume and future-optimist.

r/machinelearning is the most serious and the AMAs there are pure gold (Hinton, Bengio, Schmiduber, Lecun, Ng, etc). It's main value for me is making it easier to stay up to date on ML/AI, saving most of the trouble of having to read through tons of abstracts from the various conferences.

Comment author: MathiasZaman 17 June 2015 12:46:29PM 1 point [-]

/r/Futurology is also really annoying because people keep having the same arguments over and over again.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 17 June 2015 11:43:17PM 1 point [-]

Could creating comprehensive overview pages for the arguments and linking people to them whenever the arguments came up be useful?

Comment author: MathiasZaman 18 June 2015 11:19:32AM 1 point [-]

It might but most redditors don't really click links. I find it more useful to ignore them, occasionally skimming the arguments and upvoting the non-stupid comments.

Comment author: Houshalter 18 June 2015 03:50:10PM 0 points [-]

I would also strongly recommend /r/thisisthewayitwillbe

/r/artificial is the official AI subreddit.