Lumifer comments on Autism, or early isolation? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 17 June 2015 01:51:08PM *  3 points [-]

Alternative hypothesis: schizoid personality.

I find https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_personality_disorder#Guntrip_criteria matches me well, but what is ever more important that it sounds like a description of "nerd culture":

  • Introversion - check
  • Withdrawnness - check
  • Narcissism - um, here it is important to point out that low self-confidence, social awkwardness can also be a form of it ("everybody is looking at me and I am ugly!"). Or: the classic "naked at school" nightmares. But this is debatable.
  • Self-sufficiency - check
  • Sense of superiority - heh heh heh
  • Loss of affect - understood as cynicism mainly
  • Depersonalization - ?
  • Regression - inward, as in: fantasy, D&D etc.
  • Regression - backward, as in: enjoying childhood things like simple console games

I don't know how well it describes the LW community, it does describe me, and it generally does a good job of describing the Reddit type nerd-neckbeard community who are IMHO at the very least could be seen as the less intelligent "cousin" of the LW community in general (well, closer to to LW than a fantasy football community is close to LW)

This is just a hypothesis but may worth considering. Are you often described as emotionally cold and withdrawn?

Comment author: Lumifer 17 June 2015 03:15:27PM *  9 points [-]

Oh, dear. Let's not go into the pop-psy favourite pastime of diagnosing oneself with a variety of psychiatric disorders. Or, even better, diagnosing various people on the 'net.

I remember going to the British Museum one day to read up the treatment for some slight ailment of which I had a touch—hay fever, I fancy it was. I got down the book, and read all I came to read; and then, in an unthinking moment, I idly turned the leaves, and began to indolently study diseases, generally. I forget which was the first distemper I plunged into—some fearful, devastating scourge, I know—and, before I had glanced half down the list of “premonitory symptoms,” it was borne in upon me that I had fairly got it.

I sat for awhile, frozen with horror; and then, in the listlessness of despair, I again turned over the pages. I came to typhoid fever—read the symptoms—discovered that I had typhoid fever, must have had it for months without knowing it—wondered what else I had got; turned up St. Vitus’s Dance—found, as I expected, that I had that too,—began to get interested in my case, and determined to sift it to the bottom, and so started alphabetically—read up ague, and learnt that I was sickening for it, and that the acute stage would commence in about another fortnight. Bright’s disease, I was relieved to find, I had only in a modified form, and, so far as that was concerned, I might live for years. Cholera I had, with severe complications; and diphtheria I seemed to have been born with. I plodded conscientiously through the twenty-six letters, and the only malady I could conclude I had not got was housemaid’s knee.

(Three men in a boat)

Comment author: ChristianKl 18 June 2015 11:22:24AM 4 points [-]

Oh, dear. Let's not go into the pop-psy favourite pastime of diagnosing oneself with a variety of psychiatric disorders. Or, even better, diagnosing various people on the 'net.

While I share the sentiment, recognizing that their are multiple psychological issues that lead to lower social skills is an improvement over simply thinking of everything as autism.

Comment author: Viliam 17 June 2015 09:44:50PM 4 points [-]
Comment author: [deleted] 17 June 2015 03:44:22PM 1 point [-]

Fair point, but actually I think these are disorders only in the extreme case, and simply personality types in more moderate cases. I think e.g. most poets had to be a bit schizoid.