Jiro comments on Stupid Questions July 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Jiro 06 July 2015 09:58:03AM 3 points [-]

But being a doctor still has a core definition. You're not a doctor if you don't treat sick people or have the ability to treat sick people. There are also peripheral aspects such as how others treat you, or things that most doctors do without this being part of the definition of doctor, but being a doctor is not entirely about those peripheral things. Transsgender (at least in the absence of SRS) doesn't seem to be that way

Or to put it another way, nobody says "I'm a transphysician. I feel like and identify with being a doctor. I want to wear a white coat and have people put "MD" after my name. This makes me a doctor, even though I don't know how to treat sick people."

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 07 July 2015 04:35:44AM -1 points [-]

Or to put it another way, nobody says "I'm a transphysician. I feel like and identify with being a doctor. I want to wear a white coat and have people put "MD" after my name. This makes me a doctor, even though I don't know how to treat sick people."

But a lot of people want the status benefits of being a doctor without having to do the hard work of going throw med school or even knowing how to heal people. Come to think of it, this isn't a bad analogy of transwomen. A man want the status and attention that women get, especially in nerd or SJW circles. Furthermore, these days by declaring himself a "transwoman" he even becomes more special then ordinary women.

Comment author: [deleted] 07 July 2015 08:52:39AM 0 points [-]

The parallel for a transdoctor would be transmother, not transwoman.

Comment author: fubarobfusco 06 July 2015 04:00:22PM 0 points [-]

Sorry, the analogy isn't that close. I was just trying to get at the idea of there being a "doctor" node which is different from any one particular property of doctors, because it's a socially defined cluster, not a natural kind.

Comment author: ChristianKl 06 July 2015 10:04:57AM 0 points [-]

You're not a doctor if you don't treat sick people or have the ability to treat sick people.

Nurses also know how to treat sick people and treat sick people. That doesn't seem to be primarily what being a doctor is about.

Comment author: Jiro 06 July 2015 03:55:55PM 1 point [-]

If treating people is a necessary but not sufficient condition, that is enough for my point.