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Comment author: Eitan_Zohar 12 July 2015 03:07:12PM *  -1 points [-]

If you would have actually made the argument your post would have been longer than a paragraph and not simple referred to cached thoughts about acausal reasoning.

Which post was this? The solution to the DA?

If you care about your mental health than it's useful to demand from people who think they have found away around causality to provide extraordinary evidence for extraordinary claims but not treat the idea that the world runs in a causal fashion as an extraordinary claim.

I don't understand causality scientifically. It's like asking an evolutionary biologist to demonstrate exactly how his theory overcomes the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

I didn't clarify thoughts in writing either. http://lesswrong.com/lw/m8j/a_resolution_to_the_doomsday_argument/ is not clear writing.

I've always been bad at initial presentations. It gets better after observing where people go wrong.

Comment author: ChristianKl 12 July 2015 04:08:17PM 2 points [-]

Which post was this? The solution to the DA?

It certainly applies to the post about the solution to DA.

I don't understand causality scientifically. It's like asking an evolutionary biologist to demonstrate exactly how his theory overcomes the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

A smart evolutionary biologist won't draw a blank when you ask him the question. He will tell you that the sun provides earth with entropy that allows life to blossom.

If you think that you yourself don't understand causality scientifically you shouldn't make complex nonintuitive claims about the nature of causality.

Comment author: gjm 12 July 2015 10:01:08PM 1 point [-]

the sun provides the earth with entropy

<pedant>negentropy. Or energy (the Second Law doesn't apply to a system with energy flowing into it).</pedant>

Comment author: Eitan_Zohar 12 July 2015 04:34:20PM -1 points [-]

It certainly applies to the post about the solution to DA.

I don't recall saying a single word about acausality. I put forward my logic.

A smart evolutionary biologist won't draw a blank when you ask him the question. He will tell you that the sun provides earth with entropy that allows life to blossom.

Sure, but I don't claim to be an expert in anything. I just had an idea that seemed sound.

Comment author: ChristianKl 12 July 2015 07:16:12PM 3 points [-]

You didn't list all the assumption you make. You didn't explain a causal chain of how what you are proposing will lead to the effects that you desire.

If you would have the post would be longer than a paragraph as any LW post introducing a substantial new concept is.

I just had an idea that seemed sound.

You expressed an idea and the idea felt sound for you but you didn't go into a deep argument for it.

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