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Comment author: Lumifer 09 May 2016 12:56:49AM *  1 point [-]

(1) fidelity to "unbiased" facts and (2) "unbiased" logic (or maybe "common sense" is the better term)

These are not particularly contentious, given how they both can rephrased as "let's be really honest". However...

service to an "objectively" defined conception of the public interest

is somewhat more problematic. I assume we are speaking normatively, not descriptively, by the way, since real politics is nothing like that.

Off the top of my head, there are two big issues here. One is the notion of the "public interest" and how do you deal with aggregating the very diverse desires of the public into a single "public interest" and how do you resolve conflicts between incompatible desires.

The other one is what makes it "objective", even with the quotes. People have preferences (or values), some of them are pretty universal (e.g. the biologically hardwired ones), but some are not. Are you saying that some values should be uplifted into the "objective" realm, while others should be cast down into the "deviant" pit? Are there "right" values and "wrong" values?

Comment author: Germaine 09 May 2016 02:17:28AM -2 points [-]

I'm done with this weird shit arrogant, academic web site. Fuck all of you academic idiots. Your impact on the 2016 November elections: Zero. Your efforts will have zero impact on the Donald's election. Only the wisdom of American common sense can save us. LW is fucking useless. :)

Comment author: Lumifer 09 May 2016 05:41:04AM *  4 points [-]

I'm done with this weird shit arrogant, academic web site. Fuck all of you academic idiots. Your impact on the 2016 November elections: Zero. Your efforts will have zero impact on the Donald's election. Only the wisdom of American common sense can save us. LW is fucking useless. :)

Oh, dear. Somebody had a meltdown and a hissy fit.

Y'know, in some respects LW is like 4chan. Specifically, it's not your personal army.

You seem to have taken a break from bashing your face into a brick wall. Get back to it, the bricks are waiting.

Comment author: CCC 09 May 2016 09:17:31AM 3 points [-]

Elections aren't everything.

Yes, I know that I, personally, have had (and will have) absolutely zero effect on the American 2016 November elections. I am fully aware that I, personally, will have absolutely zero impact on Donald Trump's candidacy, and everything that goes into that. And I am perfectly fine with that, for a single, simple, and straightforward reason; I am not American, I live in a different country entirely. I have a (very tiny) impact on a completely different set of elections, dealing with a completely different set of politicians and political problems.

And that has absolutely nothing to do with why I am here.

I've taken a (very) brief look over your blog. And I don't think I have much to say about it - it is very America-centric, in that you're not talking about an ideal political system nearly as much as you're talking about how the American system differs from an ideal political system.

Having said that, you might want to take a look over this article - it seems to cover a lot of the same ground as you're talking about. (Then note the date on that article; if you really want to change American politics, this is probably the wrong place to be doing it. If you really want to change the mind of the average American, then you need to somehow talk to the average American - I only have an outsider's view of America, but I understand that TV ads and televised political debates are the best way to do that).

Good luck!