VoiceOfRa comments on Open Thread, Jul. 27 - Aug 02, 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vaniver 28 July 2015 02:00:07AM 2 points [-]

Every time a sufficiently powerful military breakthrough arrives there are attempts to ban it, or declare using it "dishonorable", or whatever the equivalent is.

Consider chemical warfare in WWI vs. chemical warfare in WWII. I'm no military historian, but my impression is that it was used because it was effective, people realized that it was lose-lose relative to not using chemical warfare, and then it wasn't used in WWII, because both sides reasonably expected that if they started using it, then the other side would as well.

One possibility is that this only works for technologies that are helpful but not transformative. An international campaign to halt the use of guns in warfare would not get very far (like you point out), and it is possible that autonomous military AI is closer to guns than it is chemical warfare.

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 28 July 2015 02:05:45AM 2 points [-]

Chemical warfare was only effective the first couple times it was used, i.e., before people invented the gas mask.

Comment author: garabik 28 July 2015 05:43:41PM *  0 points [-]

Combat efficiency is much reduced when using gas mask.

Moreover, while gas masks for horses do (did) exist, good luck persuading your horse wearing it. And horses were rather crucial in WWI and still very important in WWII.

We did not see gas used during WWII mostly because of Hitler's aversion and a (mistaken) belief that the Allies had stockpiles of nerve agents and Germany feared their retaliation.

Comment author: Pfft 28 July 2015 03:19:44PM *  0 points [-]

My impression is that chemical weapons were very effective in the Iran-Iraq war (e.g.), despite the gas mask having been invented.