VoiceOfRa comments on The horrifying importance of domain knowledge - Less Wrong

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Comment author: VoiceOfRa 08 August 2015 09:05:04PM 1 point [-]

Legally, maybe so, at least until the error is corrected. You'd have to ask a lawyer to be sure.

Ok, now I officially have no reason to care about Wes_W!gender.

"Your gender is whatever you say it is" is a social norm, not a factual claim.

So you agree this social norm has no factual basis to it.

Saying you're a woman doesn't make you a woman.

Good I'm glad we agree on this. Now, why are you trying to defend positions that rely on denying this claim?

People just don't generally assert it unless they actually want to be treated as a woman.

Yes, and creeps, or example, want to be treated as a woman with respect to which bathroom they enter.

Comment author: Wes_W 08 August 2015 09:42:52PM *  2 points [-]

Good I'm glad we agree on this. Now, why are you trying to defend positions that rely on denying this claim?

I'm not. I entered this discussion mostly to point out that you were equating "corresponds to social behavior" with "does not correspond to anything", which is silly.

It's worse than gender not corresponding to anything. Like in the standard example, it corresponds to multiple things, which don't necessarily agree.

ETA:

Yes, and creeps, or example, want to be treated as a woman with respect to which bathroom they enter.

Do they? I mean, as a theoretical problem, sure. But to my knowledge this is a vanishingly rare event.

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