VoiceOfRa comments on Rationality Quotes Thread August 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Stephen_Cole 22 August 2015 04:25:31AM 1 point [-]

Rather than define it, here is a (purported, I don't recall this one from Beyond Good and Evil) quote:

When a woman has scholarly inclinations there is usually something wrong with her sexuality. – Friedrich Nietzsche

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 22 August 2015 05:53:30AM *  2 points [-]

Well, lesbians certainly seem to be disproportionately represented among women with scholarly inclinations.

Edit: and an even higher proportion of women who stay single.

Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 22 August 2015 09:37:44AM *  3 points [-]

"Disproportionately represented" != "usually", but if you interpret "something wrong" more broadly, e.g. not having several children by age 30, that does seem right (at least in the present-day western world -- I have no idea whether that was also the case in Nietzsche's time, and I've heard it wasn't the case in e.g. the German Democratic Republic).

OTOH by such a broad definition there also is usually something wrong with the sexuality of men with scholarly inclinations, too.

Comment author: Romashka 23 August 2015 08:13:13AM 2 points [-]

And when a scholarly inclined man marries a scholarly inclined woman...

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 22 August 2015 06:22:07PM 1 point [-]

OTOH by such a broad definition there also is usually something wrong with the sexuality of men with scholarly inclinations, too.

Yes, and I'm pretty sure I've heard Nietzsche quotes to that effect as well.

Comment author: Stephen_Cole 22 August 2015 01:16:47PM 2 points [-]

Source? Or just your n = 1 observation?

Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 23 August 2015 04:31:31PM 0 points [-]

Well, where would you guess a larger fraction of people to be openly homosexual, in New England or in Appalachia? In which of the two would you guess more people go to college?

Comment author: Stephen_Cole 24 August 2015 11:44:51AM 0 points [-]

This is not evidence, this is opinion. Granted, good evidence on these points is hard to come by. But treating opinion like fact is detrimental to communication.

Seems my opinions differ from yours. We have different utility functions with respect to these issues. You get yours, I get mine. On any joint decision for a shared utility we each get weight 1/n.

I pose we should spend our time/resources not arguing about our utilities, but collecting high-quality evidence to improve the probability portions of our MEU.

Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 24 August 2015 12:39:44PM 1 point [-]

We have different utility functions with respect to these issues. You get yours, I get mine. On any joint decision for a shared utility we each get weight 1/n.

I didn't say anything about utilities.

Comment author: knb 22 August 2015 06:58:45AM 0 points [-]

Really? Do you have a source for this? I have noticed lesbians seem to be over-represented among stand-up comediennes.

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 22 August 2015 06:23:22PM 2 points [-]

I have noticed lesbians seem to be over-represented among stand-up comediennes.

Probably true as well.