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Comment author: Lumifer 10 August 2015 03:48:49PM 12 points [-]

if I could give them back just ten minutes of their lives, most of them wouldn’t be here.

He's wrong about that. He would need to give them back 10 minutes of their lives, and then keep on giving them back different 10 minutes on a very regular basis.

The remainder of the post actually argues that persistent, stable "reflexes" are the cause of bad decisions and those certainly are not going to be fixed by a one-time gift of 10 minutes.

Comment author: query 10 August 2015 08:50:55PM 3 points [-]

The model is that persistent reflexes interact with the environment to give black swans; singular events with extremely high legal consequence. To effectively avoid all of them preemptively requires training the stable reflexes, but it could be that "editing out" only a few 10 minute periods retroactively would still be enough (those few periods when reflexes and environment interact extremely negatively.) So I think the "very regular basis" claim isn't substantiated.

That said, we cant actually retroactively edit anyways.

Comment author: Lumifer 11 August 2015 12:40:03AM 1 point [-]

The model is that persistent reflexes interact with the environment to give black swans; singular events with extremely high legal consequence.

I don't think that's the model (or if it is, I think it's wrong). I see the model as persistent reflexes interacting with the environment and giving rise to common, repeatable, predictable events with serious legal consequences.