Gunnar_Zarncke comments on Proper posture for mental arts - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 01 September 2015 06:10:14PM *  1 point [-]

I like the analogy to mental posture. It is vivid and can possibly be used for newbies to brige an interential gap, but I'm dubious whether deeper insights can be derived from it.

But the concrete example of the unbendable arm was much more useful for me.

But the point is, by understanding something about proper posture, you can cut literally months of training down to about ten minutes.

I tried it. I tried it myself and I tried to teach my 9 year old to apply it. And as far as I can tell he did - at least he achieved significant counter force and it did look like it came from his back muscles (I explicitly explained that he had to use his back muscles and he is mostly able to transfer this).

Sure there is more to apply the technique more broadly and I doubt this single experiment has any lasting effect. For me it is more like one more puzzle piece to better posture.

Comment author: ChristianKl 02 September 2015 10:01:15AM 0 points [-]

Sure there is more to apply the technique more broadly and I doubt this single experiment has any lasting effect.

Why?

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 02 September 2015 09:25:58PM 0 points [-]

Why there is more training needed to apply the technique in more settings? Because I/we just followed a single set of fixed instructions to achieve an isolated effect without understanding the deeper patterns.

Why no lasting effect? Because habits do not form from single occurrences.

OK, some things can be gained. I already notice how I assume the basic position multiple times a day now. But still not broadly.

Comment author: ChristianKl 06 September 2015 05:14:23AM 1 point [-]

Why no lasting effect? Because habits do not form from single occurrences.

In this case you likely didn't gain a habit. But you got rid of what Thomas Hanna calls Sensory Motor Amnesia (SMA). You now have a perception of being out of the "optimal position". That perceptive ability allows you to correct your posture.

Yes, there's still work to do, but in my experience single occurrences can do a lot.