Gunnar_Zarncke comments on Flowsheet Logic and Notecard Logic - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 10 September 2015 08:48:18PM *  3 points [-]

I upvoted the whole chain up to here because it shows how a rational discussion should go: Point out flaws, clarify what is meant, summarize, update!

Good practice!.

Note: I think that OrphanWilde is uncheritably downvoted for standing up for an unpopular position on this. One could easily read that as voting against perceived dissenters.

Comment author: Viliam 11 September 2015 07:00:42AM 4 points [-]

One could easily read that as voting against perceived dissenters.

Downvotes are part of the system, not a failure of the system. Let's not make a drama when someone's comment gets into negative numbers.

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 12 September 2015 07:20:37AM 2 points [-]

I fully agree that downvotes in general are a necessary feature of the system and everybody has their own right to use them as they see fit.

I also agree that if some comments go negative the cause is often hard so determine and to make drama about it is a lost cause.

Mostly. Here this is less about the individual but what tha pattern of downvotes tells about the community: Voting against perceived out-group. Maybe I have not made that clear enough. I suggest reconsidering whether the downvotes voted down because of perceived in-group opinion or because of genuine reasons.

Comment author: OrphanWilde 15 September 2015 03:49:25PM 2 points [-]

I got 90% of my upvotes because my opinion happened to align with the majority group's on a contentious topic. It's hard to complain overmuch about downvotes for the same reason. Granted, it's also hard to hold upvotes/downvotes in any kind of regard anymore; hell, my most upvoted comments of all time were social commentary on an issue 90%+ of the people involved were mindkilled on, rather than any of the meaningful contributions I've attempted.

Comment author: Lumifer 15 September 2015 04:15:19PM 2 points [-]

Karma is a passable negative feedback tool, but it's a horrible positive feedback tool.

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 16 September 2015 05:59:53AM 0 points [-]

My intuition would have been the opposite. Can you explain?

Comment author: Lumifer 16 September 2015 06:09:28AM 1 point [-]

Maybe an example will help.

If you take pictures and post them on photography websites, the "likes" will tell you that you should photograph sunsets, puppies, and well-lit soft porn. That's... really bad advice :-/