VoiceOfRa comments on Rationality Quotes Thread October 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ike 21 October 2015 01:44:59PM 0 points [-]

Are you saying they got the object level question wrong, or that abolition is politically possible right now?

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 22 October 2015 04:28:40AM *  4 points [-]

They got the object level way wrong, abolition of prisons is a very very stupid idea.

Let's look at the article itself to see some of its most grievous flaws:

For example, the article admits that an "explosion in the incarcerated population [] has occurred over the past 40 years". However, it fails to note that that implies that something must have occurred over the last 40 years that caused this explosion and thus the solution should involve figuring out what changes have lead to this explosion and undoing them. The article instead going in the direction we have been going only more so.

Later the article quotes Tony Papa of Drug Policy Alliance, and says he spend 12 years serving an "unjust sentence", but fails to specify in what way the sentence was "unjust". Was he wrongly convicted, if so the problem is that and not the existence of minimum sentences. However, one gets the impression from the authors lack of interest in the question (or for that matter in what crime Tony Papa was incarcerated for) that the use of the word "unjust" is BS in Frankfurt's sense.