RichardKennaway comments on Rationality Quotes Thread October 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: RichardKennaway 13 November 2015 03:59:39PM 0 points [-]

But note what he's done in step 3. "When we cease to consider what the criminal deserves". He is conflating two notions of desert. (a) What punishment does the criminal deserve, on account of the wickedness of his conduct or the harm it has caused? (b) What treatment does the criminal deserve, according to whatever general principles govern how we treat people?

I don't think so. By desert he refers to (a) alone. You have extended it to (b).

Comment author: gjm 13 November 2015 06:02:13PM -1 points [-]

The point is that (a) is what he correctly says the "Humanitarian theory" isn't concerned with, but the conclusions he draws rely on a commitment to not caring about (b) either.