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Comment author: turchin 11 October 2015 07:23:59PM 1 point [-]

We can't take reality for granted. Most interesting things we see are simulations. For example, I see Mars. Most likely I see it on TV, or in dream, or in a book. So in most cases we need to invest to prove that the object is real, not that it is simulated. Most time we see images or dreams, not real things. So even in our world most experience are simulations. If I say you that I have a palace with 100 rooms, most likely I lie. So being skeptical means not believe in reality of anything, especially large and expensive.

Of course, it would be premature to start to believe that we are in the simulation without any practical evidence. But we should give simulation hypothesis higher a priory probability.

Comment author: Galap 12 October 2015 01:37:08AM 2 points [-]

Hmm.... I'd say that simulations and representations aren't the same thing. A representation only presents the appearance of something in some way, whereas a simulation tries to present the appearance of something for the same types of causal reasons the real thing has. So no, I wouldn't say that a video of mars is a simulation of mars.

Comment author: turchin 12 October 2015 04:20:08AM *  0 points [-]

I mean "Martian" movie. It is simulation of Mars, not actual video. Anyway my point is more like analogy, than straightforward argument. The key idea is that we should be sceptical to both possibilities: that we are real and that we are in simulation.

Comment author: Lumifer 12 October 2015 03:50:45PM 1 point [-]

Most interesting things we see are simulations.

You are confusing simulations and symbols.