tailcalled comments on Simulations Map: what is the most probable type of the simulation in which we live? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: RaelwayScot 11 October 2015 09:50:48AM *  5 points [-]

If we are in a simulation, why isn’t the simulation more streamlined? I have a couple of examples for that:

  • Classical physics and basic chemistry would likely be sufficient for life to exist.
  • There are seven uninhabitable planets in our solar system.
  • 99.9…% of everything performs extremely boring computations (dirt, large bodies of fluids and gas etc.).
  • The universe is extremely hostile towards intelligent life (GRBs, supernovae, scarcity of resources, large distances between celestial body).

It seems that our simulation hosts would need to have access to vast or unlimited resources. (In that case it would be interesting to consider whether life is sustainable in a world with unlimited resources at all. Perhaps scarcity is somehow required for ethical behavior to develop; malice would perhaps spread too easily.)

I’m a big fan of these infographics by the way.

Comment author: tailcalled 12 October 2015 09:49:08PM 1 point [-]

It could be that the 'external' world is completely different and way, way bigger than our world. Their world might be to our world what our world is to a simple game of life simulation.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 12 October 2015 10:24:41PM 0 points [-]

If the hypothetical external world in question diverges from our own world by a lot then the ancestor simulation argument loses all force.

Comment author: tailcalled 13 October 2015 04:45:01PM 1 point [-]

Of course, but OTOH, we have simulated a lot of tiny, strange universes, so it's not completely implausible.