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Gunnar_Zarncke comments on Simulations Map: what is the most probable type of the simulation in which we live? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 14 October 2015 10:16:55PM 0 points [-]

If there are so many possible simulations esp. if you include the mathematical Tegmark IV universe including all those strange permutations from the answer to job. If so how come ours doesn't contain one of those many permutations (glitches in the matrix, miracles, what else) but appears to be so much uniform and streamlined?

Comment author: Tem42 16 October 2015 10:40:17PM *  2 points [-]

We may experience glitches in the matrix, miracles, etc. quite frequently. If you saw you saw bigfoot, I assume that you are lying or confused. If I see a unicorn, I assume I am hallucinating. I admit that I have not yet hallucinated a unicorn, but there is no shortage of people who have seen bigfoot, sea monsters, aliens, Elvis, Jesus, and ghosts.

If our best evidence is that we live in a rule-governed system in which all valid ontological events are objective and replicable, it is reasonable to hold that these people are confused, lying, or misled.

If our best evidence is that we live in a glitchy simulation, you may have to update your interpretation on these reports.

Edit: I should also mention that human memory is very prone to self editing, and that I can name a couple of memories of my own that I have determined to have been dreams only because they were inconsistent with reality as expected. There is no longer any way to determine whether they correlated to external sensory experiences. If this is not true of you, my argument is probably not so convincing.

Comment author: turchin 15 October 2015 06:46:34AM *  0 points [-]

I had just the same topic discussion recently about Bolzmann brains. (here: http://lesswrong.com/lw/17d/forcing_anthropics_boltzmann_brains/)

In case of BB the answer (in my opinion) is that if you are in BB your thoughts are random and not casually connected with your experiences, and half of BB thinks that their universe is streamlined, even if it is not. So in case of BB the fact that you think that your universe is streamlined is not evidence that you are not BB.

In case of more conventional simulations, their creators probably tried to create illusion of real world. So they create more or less streamlined universe (and may edit our thoughts if we find holes).