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Comment author: Lumifer 20 October 2015 05:48:13PM 0 points [-]

That's precisely why it is a mathematical problem... Math can't SOLVE this problem

Ahem.

in the context of modern government with a police force, international oversight, etc.

I would be quite interested to learn who exerts "international oversight" over, say, USA.

Besides, are you really saying a "modern" government can do no wrong??

assuming there's already a rule of law in place, you can maximize how effective those laws are

I'm sorry, I'm not talking about the executive function of the government which merely implements the laws, I'm talking about the legislative function which actually makes the laws. There is no assumption of the base state of anarchy.

Comment author: [deleted] 20 October 2015 05:52:50PM *  -1 points [-]

Ahem

This isn't helpful. There's nothing for me to respond to.

I would be quite interested to learn who exerts "international oversight" over, say, USA.

The UN (specifically, other very powerful countries that trade with the US).

I'm talking about the legislative function which actually makes the laws. There is no assumption of the base state of anarchy.

Would a historical example of what you're talking about be the legality of slavery?

Comment author: Lumifer 20 October 2015 05:58:57PM *  0 points [-]

There's nothing for me to respond to.

Let me unroll my ahem.

You claimed this is a mathematical problem, but in the next breath said that math can't solve it. Then what was the point of claiming it to be a math problem in the first place? Just because dealing with it involves numbers? That does not make it a math problem.

The UN

LOL. Can we please stick a bit closer to the real world?

Would a historical example of what you're talking about be the legality of slavery?

Actually, the first example that comes to mind is the when the US decided that all Americans who happen to be of Japanese descent and have the misfortune to live on the West Coast need to be rounded up and sent to concentration, err.. internment camps.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 23 October 2015 11:58:15PM -1 points [-]

Problems can have a mathematical aspect without being completely solvable by math.

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