Lumifer comments on Systems Theory Terms - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Lumifer 20 November 2015 05:32:10PM 3 points [-]

I think "system theory" used to be called cybernetics and (in its contemporary form) was basically invented by Norbert Wiener.

This might be splitting hairs, but I would probably call it a "framework" in the sense that it provides a context (e.g. language and concepts) within which more specific "theories" exist. Which theory, for example, would consider the similarities between feedback mechanisms in financial markets and in ecological systems?

Comment author: RichardKennaway 20 November 2015 08:34:19PM 1 point [-]

Which theory, for example, would consider the similarities between feedback mechanisms in financial markets and in ecological systems?

Dynamic systems. I am not convinced it gains from being associated with a wider "systems theory".

Of perhaps, like Molière's bourgeois gentilhomme discovering that he had been speaking prose all his life, the message is that "systems thinking" is what I have always been doing?

Comment author: Lumifer 20 November 2015 08:41:22PM 0 points [-]

Of perhaps, like Molière's bourgeois gentilhomme discovering that he had been speaking prose all his life, the message is that "systems thinking" is what I have always been doing?

Might be :-) I think cybernetics / system theory basically dissolved into a set of disciplines or theories, much like natural philosophy did a long time ago or, say, geography did fairly recently.