Jiro comments on Rationality Quotes Thread November 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Jiro 04 November 2015 07:32:45PM 4 points [-]

I think that the lifespan that humans can live to if they wish, given current medical and scientific knowledge, is too low.

Comment author: dspeyer 04 November 2015 11:05:14PM 5 points [-]

I agree.

The model I use to derive that involves looking at lots of dying people who don't want to die. If we had lots of people lying around saying "I wish I could die; why can't I die?" that same model would conclude the lifespan is too long.

Comment author: Jiro 05 November 2015 06:15:57AM 3 points [-]

I didn't say that lifespan is too low, I said that the lifespan that you can choose if you wish is too low. The existence of people who want to die is irrelevant to this.

Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 07 November 2015 09:42:55AM 2 points [-]

If we had lots of people lying around saying "I wish I could die; why can't I die?"

I think Sister Y would disagree with the implication that there are few such people.

Comment author: ChristianKl 04 November 2015 11:24:51PM 0 points [-]

If we had lots of people lying around saying "I wish I could die; why can't I die?" that same model would conclude the lifespan is too long.

We actually do have people around who want to die. At the same time we still want to increase the lifespan that people can achieve if they want to do so.

Comment author: dxu 05 November 2015 05:28:05PM 2 points [-]

I think the key word in the part of dspeyer's comment that you quoted is "lots".