Jiro comments on The Allais Paradox - Less Wrong

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Comment author: hyporational 30 November 2013 01:06:59PM *  0 points [-]

Since there are values of X that are considered acceptable, there are values of Y that must be acceptable too and therefore this argument cannot be used as a basis for an absolutist anti-capital-punishment stance.

I agree.

Have you considered that life in prison has more value than being dead? Also, why compare capital punishment to life sentences? What if there were no life sentences? Of course you can still die in prison for whatever that's worth, but the chance is significantly smaller.

Comment author: Jiro 30 November 2013 04:48:38PM *  0 points [-]

Have you considered that life in prison has more value than being dead?

I didn't post that because it was about capital punishment, I posted it because I thought this particular anti-capital punishment argument was relevant to the Allais problem. I don't see how life in prison being more valuable than being dead is relevant to the Allais problem.

What if there were no life sentences? Of course you can still die in prison for whatever that's worth, but the chance is significantly smaller.

Insofar as that's relevant, it just changes the values of X and Y; the absolutist "we can't do it because an innocent may be exonerated only after he is killed" position still has the same flaw.

Comment author: hyporational 30 November 2013 05:16:46PM *  0 points [-]

Ok, good to know you weren't trying to sneak in politics. I agree it's not relevant.

Insofar as that's relevant, it just changes the values of X and Y; the absolutist "we can't do it because an innocent may be exonerated only after he is killed" position still has the same flaw.

Yes, if we're strictly logical this is true.