Lumifer comments on Rationality Quotes Thread December 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Lumifer 21 December 2015 10:24:48PM 4 points [-]

If anyone is trying to tell you it’s not complicated, be very, very suspicious

-- Tyler Cowen

Comment author: RichardKennaway 22 December 2015 08:35:46PM 7 points [-]

Seek simplicity and distrust it.

A.N. Whitehead

Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 27 December 2015 10:43:04AM 0 points [-]

There's this guy called William of Occam who must really be spinning in his grave right now.

Comment author: g_pepper 27 December 2015 02:45:08PM *  1 point [-]

I interpreted the Whitehead quote to mean that you should seek the simplest explanation that explains whatever it is you are trying to explain. This is consistent with Occam's Razor. I assumed that "distrust it" meant subject the explanation to additional tests to confirm or falsify the explanation. So, I didn't see this quote as contradicting William of Occam; instead it built on Occam's Razor to describe the essence of the scientific method.

This interpretation is supported if you look at the context of the quote:

The aim of science is to seek the simplest explanations of complex facts. We are apt to fall into the error of thinking that the facts are simple because simplicity is the goal of our quest. The guiding motto in the life of every natural philosopher should be, "Seek simplicity and distrust it."

Comment author: RichardKennaway 27 December 2015 05:23:10PM 3 points [-]

Here also is Einstein:

It can scarcely be denied that the supreme goal of all theory is to make the irreducible basic elements as simple and as few as possible without having to surrender the adequate representation of a single datum of experience.

Or in the pithier paraphrase usually quoted:

Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 23 December 2015 03:08:10AM 3 points [-]

I'd be even more suspicious of someone telling me that it's not that simple.

Comment author: dxu 22 December 2015 07:51:16AM 2 points [-]

Depends on what the subject matter is. Sometimes, it really doesn't need to be complicated.

Comment author: Lumifer 22 December 2015 03:28:35PM 0 points [-]

Depends on what the subject matter is.

True, though this "depends" applies to pretty much everything.