Elo comments on New year's resolutions: Things worth considering for next year - Less Wrong

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Comment author: brazil84 10 December 2015 12:11:18AM 0 points [-]

is goal sharing mostly good or mostly bad?

So this is the question which requires "future research" according to you?

Comment author: Elo 10 December 2015 03:29:23AM 0 points [-]

the question which requires "future research"

is a line from the conclusion of that paper.

I suspect the "mostly good or mostly bad?" will come down to subjective experience. So that's a pretty ordinary question to be trying to obtain future research for. In which case - the important question is - How might we make (or ensure) goal sharing (is) mostly good and mostly not bad? (or always good)

Comment author: brazil84 10 December 2015 08:30:24AM *  0 points [-]

is a line from the conclusion of that paper.

Umm, does that mean "yes" or "no"?

Please just state the question which requires "future research" so that I can understand what you are saying.

Comment author: Elo 10 December 2015 10:07:05AM 0 points [-]

(as in bold above) How might we make (or ensure) goal sharing (is) mostly good and mostly not bad?

Comment author: brazil84 10 December 2015 03:41:45PM 0 points [-]

as in bold above) How might we make (or ensure) goal sharing (is) mostly good and mostly not bad?

Ok, but that's a different issue. My position is that generally speaking, goal-sharing is counterproductive. Your position is that generally speaking, goal sharing is beneficial and productive. The evidence supports my position. You have offered no evidence to support your position and instead you have attempted to change the subject.

Comment author: Elo 10 December 2015 09:35:41PM -2 points [-]

I'm gonna tap out of this. I would suggest re-reading that evidence. Especially that paper and the conclusion of that paper where it doesn't actually say that.

It says things like this:

Other people’s taking notice of one’s identity-relevant intentions apparently engenders a premature sense of completeness regarding the identity goal.

An identity-relevant intention is potentially different to a goal or a plan. To make the most use of this research it would be wise to identify the difference and make use of the right mechanisms.

Good luck with your future in the goal-space.

Comment author: brazil84 10 December 2015 09:56:00PM -2 points [-]

I'm gonna tap out of this. I would suggest re-reading that evidence. Especially that paper and the conclusion of that paper where it doesn't actually say that.

Doesn't actually say what? Never mind, because it seems you don't have a clear understanding of what you are talking about.

An identity-relevant intention is potentially different to a goal or a plan

Then perhaps your evidence is irrelevant to both your position and mine. If so, it's your problem not mine. Because it wouldn't change the fact that all of the evidence supports my position and you haven't cited any evidence to support your own.

Good luck with your future in the goal-space.

Thanks you too.