VoiceOfRa comments on Estimate the Cost of Immortality - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Lumifer 16 December 2015 05:58:13AM -1 points [-]

Note: informationally equivalent. Cells certainly utilize a variety of currencies, mostly energy in various forms. I don't know ants well enough, but I'm pretty sure an anthill or a termite mound has some feedback systems which control the foraging of ants and termites.

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 16 December 2015 07:13:38AM 2 points [-]

Cells certainly utilize a variety of currencies, mostly energy in various forms.

Energy is a resource, not a currency. Cells don't trade amino acids for energy with each other.

I'm pretty sure an anthill or a termite mound has some feedback systems which control the foraging of ants and termites.

Probably, although we don't fully understand them. Also feedback systems =/= currency.

Comment author: Lumifer 16 December 2015 03:46:49PM -1 points [-]

You're not paying attention. Let me try again: INFORMATIONALLY equivalent. Do you understand what the INFORMATIONAL role of money is?

Besides, "resource" and "currency" are not mutually exclusive. Until relatively recently currency (e.g. gold coins) had intrinsic value and so was a "resource".

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 17 December 2015 02:47:05AM *  2 points [-]

Could you define what you mean by "informationally equivalent"? Merely writing a word in bold all caps does not grant it magical powers.

Comment author: Lumifer 17 December 2015 03:34:56AM *  -1 points [-]

Informationally equivalent = plays a role in the flow of information within the system that is equivalent to the role of money in the flow of information within economy.

Merely writing a word in bold all caps does not grant it magical powers.

Surely it does -- it magically made you pay attention to it :-P

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 17 December 2015 07:46:23PM 2 points [-]

Informationally equivalent = plays a role in the flow of information within the system that is equivalent to the role of money in the flow of information within economy.

Ok, I don't see how that applied to the examples in question unless you expand the meaning of "equivalent" so broadly that it becomes meaningless.