TuviaDulin comments on Circular Altruism - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ArisKatsaris 23 September 2011 11:24:19PM 0 points [-]

I see. This is then no longer about not causing "serious problems" -- because a broken leg is a serious problem.

But how far does your argument extent. Let's increase the amount of individual harm: How about 3^^^^3 people tortured for 3 months, vs a single person being tortured for 50 years? Which would you rather?

How about 3^^^^3 people imprisoned unjustly for ten years, in rather bad but not torturing conditions, vs a single person being tortured for 50 years. Which would you rather?

- For the sake of this discussion, we indeed consider the cases individual (we can imagine each case happening in a parallel universe, as you suggest)

Comment author: TuviaDulin 23 September 2011 11:30:33PM 0 points [-]

Three months of torture is enough to cause immense and longlasting psychological scarring. Ten years out of your life is something that changes the course of a person's life. I would rather someone be tortured for fifty years than have either of the above happen to a large number of people.

I think your choice of broken leg is pretty much exactly at the threshold. I can't think of anything worse than that that wouldn't stand a good chance of ruining someone's life.