malcolmocean comments on Why CFAR? The view from 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Lumifer 18 December 2015 03:49:11PM *  6 points [-]

Couple of notes...

We created a metric for strategic usefulness

What is that metric?

But it seems to many of us that there is a kind of “deep epistemic rationality” that doesn’t change one’s goals, but does help one make actual contact with the deep caring that already exists within a person.

I think this is a dangerous path to take. If you stay on it, I suspect that soon enough you'll come to the conclusion that absence of appropriate "caring" is irrational and should be fixed. And from there it's only a short jump and a hop to declaring that just those people who share your value system are rational. That would be an... unfortunate position for you to find yourselves in.

Comment author: malcolmocean 21 December 2015 11:15:25AM 1 point [-]

We created a metric for strategic usefulness

What is that metric?

It wouldn't surprise me if they didn't want to publish it because some of the aspects of the measure might be gameable, allowing people to pretend to be super useful by guessing the teacher's password.

Comment author: ChristianKl 21 December 2015 12:18:48PM 1 point [-]

GIven that the use it to justify the claim that CFAR made progress in the last year, it seems that the relevant people already know the metric.