Mirzhan_Irkegulov comments on Voiceofra is banned - Less Wrong

21 Post author: NancyLebovitz 23 December 2015 06:29PM

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Comment author: IlyaShpitser 24 December 2015 08:49:56PM *  5 points [-]

I don't think your band analogy holds. The person is a member of the community that stands or falls by what its members do. In this case, it's a choice between cursing the darkness or turning on the light.

The type of criticism from Brillyant is low effort and fairly useless. Lots of people write one liners bemoaning the decline of LW. What is the point of doing that?

Comment author: Mirzhan_Irkegulov 24 December 2015 10:15:25PM *  3 points [-]

They didn't just bemoan the decline, they stated the precise condition (in their opinion) of LW prosperity. I personally believe that LW needs a hero, and it's necessary and sufficient condition. Someone, who'd basically repeat Yudkowsky's feat. But am I Yudkowsky, or even Luke Muehlhauser, level smart to fulfill that role? Hell no. But there's nothing bad in sharing my opinion, because maybe it would make other people rethink their actions and expectations.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 24 December 2015 10:52:14PM 1 point [-]

It's not obvious to me that LW needs a hero. A cohort of excellent posters would be enough.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 24 December 2015 10:18:56PM *  1 point [-]

LW needs a hero

I agree with you on this, and I think this is an enormous problem. Somehow this need is written into the rationalist DNA, and I think to grow, the rationalist community needs to move past this.

It doesn't matter what Yudkowsky does, it matters what (generic) "you" do. In fact, our good friend Yudkowsky said so himself, more or less, if you don't want to take my word for it.


edit: I think it is also very important to let go of "intelligence" as a single number on your character sheet. That's a really toxic way to think.