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Comment author: Clarity 28 December 2015 04:49:42PM 5 points [-]

Would anything convince you to change your mind about Intentional Insights?

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 28 December 2015 05:06:55PM 1 point [-]

Of course, two things:

1) If I see clear evidence that Intentional Insights does not have support from those rationalists and effective altruists who are dedicated to spreading rationality to a broad audience.

2) If I see InIn content as not having a positive impact on a broad audience.

However:

1) There is clear evidence that a number of rationalists and EAs are supporting InIn, which is why my current estimate of this project having support from some members of these communities.

2) There is clear evidence of InIn having a positive impact on at least some members of a broad audience.

The annual report, which you read describes both of these.

Comment author: Lumifer 28 December 2015 05:09:41PM 4 points [-]

There is clear evidence of InIn having a positive impact on at least some members of a broad audience.

Really? Which evidence? All I've seen so far is reports of, basically, impressions (eyeballs/clicks). Do you have evidence of actual positive impact?

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 28 December 2015 05:13:58PM 0 points [-]

See pages 13 and 14 of this document.

Comment author: Lumifer 28 December 2015 05:19:51PM 0 points [-]

/rolls eyes

So if I convince a guy I know that he should finally junk his old car and get something that doesn't break down all the time, do I also get to brag about having clear evidence that I made a "positive impact on at least some members of a broad audience"?

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 28 December 2015 05:24:12PM 0 points [-]

If that is an example from a series of workshops you ran, sure :-) That's the kind of case study story that CFAR uses, after all, except they target elites who make decisions within their own lives/companies that address the kind of sunken cost fallacy this exemplifies.

Comment author: Lumifer 28 December 2015 05:32:43PM 1 point [-]

I don't think kitchen-table common-sense advice qualifies as spreading rationality and requires a full-blown non-profit to do :-/

Evidently, I also love hyphens X-)

Comment author: [deleted] 29 December 2015 06:33:42AM 1 point [-]

I don't think kitchen-table common-sense advice qualifies as spreading rationality and requires a full-blown non-profit to do :-/

You seem to have a much rosier outlook than I on the average person's ability to use common sense :)

Comment author: Lumifer 04 January 2016 05:09:19PM 0 points [-]

You seem to have a much rosier outlook than I on the average person's ability to use common sense :)

I don't think that's true, I tend to consider "average people" idiots. But I also don't think that plain-vanilla advice along the lines of "don't normally carry a balance on your credit cards" requires a special non-profit or a lot of noise about rationality.

Comment author: [deleted] 04 January 2016 05:45:42PM 0 points [-]

But I also don't think that plain-vanilla advice along the lines of "don't normally carry a balance on your credit cards" requires a special non-profit.

What do you think the best way to get these types of messages to sink in is?

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 28 December 2015 05:36:21PM 0 points [-]

Hindsight bias is a powerful thing :-)

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