Viliam comments on Celebrating All Who Are in Effective Altruism - Less Wrong

21 Post author: Gleb_Tsipursky 20 January 2016 01:31AM

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Comment author: SaxophonesAndViolets 20 January 2016 10:53:25PM 2 points [-]

On one hand, I agree at least somewhat about the importance of preventing free riders. On the other hand, claiming that someone isn't a "real" effective altruist makes them believe they're less of an effective altruist, which makes them less committed to the cause. Conversely, every time a non-donating EA proclaims their EAness, it becomes a more integral part of their identity, raising their level of commitment to donating when they get income.

Comment author: Viliam 21 January 2016 08:39:58AM 0 points [-]

Wouldn't donating a symbolic dollar create even stronger psychological effect?

Comment author: ChristianKl 21 January 2016 09:18:27AM 2 points [-]

EA as a movement is about the idea that charity is not about engaging in symbolic actions but about actually having an effect.

Comment author: Viliam 21 January 2016 02:47:03PM 0 points [-]

Then people who don't donate at all shouldn't describe themselves as effective altruists.

They are aspiring effective altruists; they plan to donate in the future, but they may also change their minds later. Talk is cheap.

Comment author: SaxophonesAndViolets 22 January 2016 03:16:24AM *  0 points [-]

Only if they actually do it. It seems to follow that anyone willing to donate a symbolic dollar is already fairly likely to stay the course and therefore a low-priority target, whereas the people who wouldn't donate the symbolic dollar are also the easiest to alienate.