Brillyant comments on The Valentine’s Day Gift That Saves Lives - Less Wrong

-6 Post author: Gleb_Tsipursky 01 February 2016 05:00PM

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Comment author: Brillyant 02 February 2016 12:54:50AM 4 points [-]

I'm sorry, but this is just the sort of reach that is silly and unproductive in my view.

I conceded giving to charities is much more useful than traditional gifts in a utilitarian sense (duh), but this has nothing to do with romance. (Unless you define romance way outside the norm. If so, fine. But don't expect anyone else to pay the slightest attention.)

I mean, let's just go all the way here: Instead of weddings, we could have a big fundraiser; Instead of making out, we should research charities together online. These choices are of superior utility, therefore they are romantic!

There is a point where pushing rationality (and that's what Gleb is doing, from my understanding) in extreme ways is irrational, because people think it's super weird. The current system of everyone giving everyone else gifts for every friggin holiday on the calendar is, I agree, irrational. (My family give charitable donations as part of our Christmas gifts). But, at some point, it can be taken too far and people tune you out.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 02 February 2016 03:40:03AM -1 points [-]

Judging by the fact that this post got 500 FB likes the first day it was posted on The Life You Can Save Blog, people are not tuning it out. Note, the baseline for posts on TLYCS blog is about 100-200 likes over their lifetime, not the first day.

Comment author: jkaufman 16 May 2016 12:35:14AM 5 points [-]

500 FB likes the first day it was posted

Reading through the Intentional Insights fb page [1] it looks to me like you're using paid likes? The "people" who liked those posts all look like fake accounts. While I can't see the specific accounts that 'liked' your TLYCS post, is that what you did there too? If so getting 500 fb likes doesn't tell us that it was unusually good.

[1] https://www.facebook.com/intentionalinsights/

Comment author: Brillyant 02 February 2016 07:15:59PM 3 points [-]

I'm not sure that's terribly compelling evidence of anything. A post like yours is an applause light for that crowd.

Anyway, I think my main beef is the article trying to push this as "romantic". Typical mind fallacy is a thing, so maybe it's just different strokes, but I've never met a woman who would find this even marginally romantic, by any definition I'm aware of.

As for the general idea of eschewing gift exchanges in favor of donations: Love it. It just seems your trying too hard to pretend it's specifically "romantic", and that feels weird to me.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 02 February 2016 07:38:14PM -1 points [-]

I've never met a woman who would find this even marginally romantic, by any definition I'm aware of.

I'll have to introduce you to my wife next time you're in Columbus, OH :-)

Comment author: jkaufman 02 February 2016 02:58:14PM 1 point [-]

Audience matters? The TLYCS blog is very different from LW.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 02 February 2016 07:05:27PM -1 points [-]

No doubt the audience is different. I was responding to the point about people tuning it out because it's pushing rationality in extreme ways and thus people thinking it's super-weird.